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Florida's Former Attorney General Pam Bondi speaks during the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) meeting on February 23, 2024, in National Harbor, Maryland. (Photo by MANDEL NGAN / AFP) (Photo by MANDEL NGAN/AFP via Getty Images)
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• Confirmation hearings: President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for attorney general, Pam Bondi, fielded questions about her loyalty to Trump and promised there will “never be an enemies list” at the Department of Justice if she is confirmed. Meanwhile, Sen. Marco Rubio — Trump’s choice for secretary of state — appeared in front of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, where he described his positions on foreign policy and ongoing global conflicts.

• Who else is on the Hill: John Ratcliffe, Sean Duffy, Chris Wright, and Russell Vought — Trump’s choices for CIA director, transportation secretary, energy secretary and Office of Management and Budget head, respectively — also had hearings Wednesday.

Biden’s closing message: President Joe Biden will deliver a farewell address from the Oval Office at 8 p.m. ET. In a letter, he wrote it has been the “privilege of my life” to serve the country.

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Senate Democrat upbeat about Bondi following hearing, says she did a "good job"

Sen. Peter Welch questions former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi during her confirmation hearing to be the next U.S. attorney general in the Hart Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill on January 15, 2025 in Washington, DC.

Sen. Peter Welch, a Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, sounded positive about Pam Bondi, President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to be attorney general, around her confirmation hearing. He told CNN she did a “good job.”

Speaking about his fellow Democrats’ concerns about Bondi’s ability to be independent, Welch said, “The president is always going to have somebody that he or she feels comfortable with,” Welch told CNN.

“My concern is the threats Donald Trump has made about going after his political opponents.”

Rubio says he'll reverse Biden administration sanctions on any Israelis in the West Bank

Sen. Marco Rubio said he would commit to reversing sanctions imposed by the Biden administration on Israelis in the West Bank if he is confirmed as secretary of state.

“I’m confident in saying that President Trump’s administration will continue to be perhaps the most pro-Israel administration in American history,” the Florida Republican senator said in response to a question from Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz at his confirmation hearing Wednesday before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

The Biden administration has issued a number of sanctions against Israeli groups and individuals in the West Bank for settler actions considered illegal under international law and for violence targeting Palestinian individuals and property.

Rubio says terms of US turning Panama Canal over to Panama may have been violated

Sen. Marco Rubio testifies during his Senate Foreign Relations confirmation hearing at Dirksen Senate Office Building on January 15, 2025 in Washington, DC.

Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to be secretary of state, said that the terms under which the US turned the Panama Canal over to Panama may have been violated by the foreign influence exerted over the canal by China.

Rubio said Chinese influence over the canal is a “very legitimate issue,” but that the US still wants to partner with Panama “on a lot of other issues.”

“I hope we can resolve this issue of the canal and of its security and also continue to work with them cooperatively on a host of issues we share in common, including what to do with migration,” Rubio said.

Trump has threatened to demand the return of the major global transit point to US control. Panamanian President José Raúl Mulino has said the canal and its adjacent zone belong to Panama, and a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson said that China views the canal “as a permanently neutral international waterway.”

Key GOP senator says she will review Hegseth's hearing this weekend

GOP Sen. Susan Collins, who is seen as a swing vote on some of Donald Trump’s more controversial picks, is not tipping her hand on whether she is inclined to support Pete Hegseth, the president-elect’s choice for defense secretary.

Collins said she did not get a chance to watch all of Hegseth’s hearing yesterday, but she plans to review it this weekend.

“I only saw part of Mr. Hegseth’s hearing yesterday. This weekend, I will review the entire hearing, including the provisions that I’ve missed,” she said.

Collins added, “I have been concentrating on the Ratcliffe hearing today. I’m a member of the Intelligence Committee; I participated in the morning session and the afternoon session.” John Ratcliffe is Trump’s pick for CIA director.

Bondi says she was "horrified" by protests at Supreme Court justices' homes

Attorney General nominee Pam Bondi said she was “horrified” by the protestors who demonstrated outside of the homes of Supreme Court justices after the overturning of Roe v Wade and that she would prosecute future protesters.

She vowed to enforce an anti-picketing law that Republicans called on Attorney General Merrick Garland to use to prosecute those who demonstrated at justices’ homes after the high court ruling on Roe in 2022.

Republican Sen. Marsha Blackburn brought up the protests and Garland’s failure to bring charges under the law, which prohibits picketing outside a court or a judge’s home with the intention of interfering with the administration of justice.

“It horrified me — the protestors outside their houses,” Bondi said. “You can’t do that for a reason, because the justices have to remain safe and unbiased and unprotected from threats. As do we all, but they do enjoy a special protection.”

Here's what you should know about Day 2 of the confirmation hearings for Trump Cabinet nominees

Donald Trump’s Cabinet nominees for key roles in the intelligence, foreign policy and law enforcement agencies all pledged to keep politics out of their offices amid concerns from Democrats that the president-elect will carry out his vows to go after his political enemies once in office during a marathon day of confirmation hearings.

The confirmation hearings for Trump’s Cabinet picks kicked off Tuesday with a highly contentious session for defense secretary nominee Pete Hegseth. But today, the slate of a half-dozen hearings struck a much more conciliatory tone, where the concerns raised by senators were about the conduct of the president-elect and not the nominees themselves.

Trump’s nominee for attorney general, Pam Bondi, repeatedly insisted she would not allow politics to infect her Justice Department — accusing President Joe Biden’s administration of being responsible for politicizing law enforcement against Trump.

Democratic senators made clear they were not going to blanketly oppose all of Trump’s nominees, including their colleague, and secretary of state nominee, GOP Sen. Marco Rubio.

Here are the takeaways from today’s slate of confirmation hearings:

Bondi vows to lead an independent Justice Department: Democrats repeatedly pressed Bondi on Wednesday about her ability to stand up to Trump, who has said he has an “absolute right” to be involved in Justice Department matters and clashed with his attorneys general in his first administration when they did not bend to his wishes. “I will not politicize that office,” Bondi said of being attorney general. “I will not target people simply because of their political affiliation.” Bondi also vowed Wednesday to follow the Justice Department’s policy to limit contacts between the White House and the Justice Department.

Rubio voices support for NATO: Rubio, who has served as a senator for more than a decade, may have received the warmest reception from his colleagues when he appeared on the other side of the dais Wednesday as Trump’s nominee to lead the State Department. New Hampshire Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said Rubio “has the skills” and is “well-qualified to serve as secretary of state.” During questions from senators, Rubio voiced his support for NATO — as well as the bipartisan law he co-sponsored, which states that the US cannot withdraw from the alliance without Senate approval or an act of Congress. Trump has been critical of the alliance.

Ratcliffe pledges an “apolitical” intelligence community: Testifying before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Trump’s nominee for CIA John Ratcliffe pledged not to politicize his work and the intelligence that’s produced in the Trump administration. He told the committee he would never allow “political or personal biases to cloud our judgement or infect our products.”

Read more about today’s confirmation hearings.

Sen. Schiff and Bondi spar over January 6 cases

In a tense exchange, Democratic Sen. Adam Schiff of California and Pam Bondi sparred over whether her personal political beliefs would affect decisions on pardons in January 6, 2021, cases and the preservation of evidence from the special counsel investigations into Donald Trump.

During her confirmation hearing for attorney general Wednesday, Bondi accused Schiff of trying to “engage me in a gotcha” over questions of whether she would follow any order from Trump when he is in office.

The series of questioning devolved as Schiff pushed Bondi repeatedly on whether she would recommend blanket pardons for January 6 rioters, questioning her earlier comment that she would review such requests on a “case-by-case basis.”

As Bondi responded, Schiff repeatedly interrupted her, asking how she would have the time to review every case.

“Heck, can I answer the question?” Bondi said. “I would have plenty of staff.”

“I am not going to mislead this body, nor you. You were censured by Congress, senator, for comments that were just like this that are so reckless,” she said. Schiff was censured in 2023, when Republicans accused him of misleading the American people while pursuing a congressional investigation into Russia and the Trump campaign.

The disagreement continued, however, as Schiff pushed Bondi on whether she would “destroy evidence” collected by former special counsel Jack Smith in his 2020 election interference case against Trump.

“Are you frightened because evidence was destroyed against President Trump that was false?” Bondi asked Schiff. “Is that why you are frightened now?”

“Why do you have difficulty answering that question?” Schiff responded.

“I can’t believe you are asking such a question,” Bondi said. “I will follow the law,” she added.

Asked if she'll uphold birthright citizenship, Bondi says she'll "study" it

Attorney General nominee Pam Bondi’s testy exchange with Democratic Sen. Alex Padilla continued when he pressed her about the meaning of the 14th Amendment, which guarantees citizenship to children born on US soil.

Padilla claimed she had not given him a straightforward answer when he asked her about the constitutional provision in their private meeting and that he had given her the opportunity to research it before the public hearing.

“The 14th Amendment, we all know, addresses birthright citizenship,” Bondi said after her Padilla pushed her on it repeatedly. “I didn’t take your homework assignment, I’m sorry. I was preparing for today.”

He brought up her vows at the hearing to uphold the Constitution and asked if she believed birthright citizenship was the law of the land.

“I will study birthright citizenship; I would love to meet you regarding the birthright citizenship,” she said.

Confirmation hearing begins for Russ Vought, one of the key authors of Project 2025

Russell Vought arrives for a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill on January 15, 2025 in Washington, DC.

The confirmation hearing for Russell Vought, who is President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to head the Office of Management and Budget, has started.

Senators on the Homeland Security Committee will be asking Vought questions.

Vought was one of the key authors of Project 2025 — the conservative blueprint for a second Trump term that the president-elect tried to distance himself from during the campaign. He served as budget director during the first Trump administration and oversaw a widespread deregulation push.

OMB oversees the development and execution of the federal budget, and the office has significant influence over the president’s agenda.

During Trump’s first administration, Vought made a name for himself as a policy wonk committed to the MAGA movement. The president-elect has repeatedly praised Vought for doing an “incredible” and “fantastic” job at OMB.

Vought also served as the policy director of the Republican National Convention committee that rewrote the GOP’s official platform last year — a sign of how central he is to Republicans’ policy goals.

Bondi clashes with Democratic senator: "I’m not going to be bullied by you"

Former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee during her confirmation hearing to be the next U.S. attorney general in the Hart Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill on January 15, 2025 in Washington, DC.

Attorney general nominee Pam Bondi and Democratic Sen. Alex Padilla of California repeatedly clashed during a heated exchange about the legitimacy of the 2020 election, which Donald Trump lost.

Padilla challenged Bondi during her confirmation hearing Wednesday to provide evidence of mass fraud in Pennsylvania that year. Bondi went to the state in November 2020 as part of the Trump campaign’s efforts to contest and overturn the election results. Bondi and Padilla cut each other off several times during the testy back-and-forth.

“I traveled to Pennsylvania,” Bondi said, before Padilla said, “You’re not answering my question.” After they both talked over each other, Padilla said he was moving on because Bondi was dodging.

At one point, Padilla interrupted his question, raised his finger at Bondi and said, “I’m speaking.”

Rubio: Designating cartels as foreign terrorist organizations is "imperfect tool" but may be "appropriate one"

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida said Wednesday that designating Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations is “probably an imperfect tool” because they are “sophisticated criminal enterprises,” but did not rule out the possibility of doing so.

Rubio also did not rule out the use of military force to target the cartels, noting that “that’s an option the president has at his disposal.”

“I think President Trump is someone that never publicly discusses his options and leaves himself the flexibility to act,” he said.

Still, Rubio said his preference “would be that we can work with the Mexicans on this issue cooperatively.”

CNN reported last week that Trump’s team is discussing plans to designate Mexican cartels as terrorist organizations, according to three sources familiar with the discussions, bringing back an idea that failed to come to fruition during his first term in office.

Blinken says Rubio "understands the imperative of American engagement and American leadership"

Outgoing Secretary of State Antony Blinken offered praise for his likely successor, Sen. Marco Rubio, in an interview with CNN’s Christiane Amanpour on Wednesday.

The wide-ranging discussion largely focused on the developing ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, as well as the importance of alliances in the ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflict.

Rubio’s confirmation hearing in front of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is ongoing.

Senate confirmation hearings for Marco Rubio and Pam Bondi resume

The confirmation hearings for President-elect Donald Trump’s picks for secretary of state, GOP Sen. Marco Rubio, and attorney general, Pam Bondi, have resumed after brief breaks.

Rubio is appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Meanwhile, Bondi is appearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee in one of two confirmation hearings for her this week.

Trump's transportation secretary pick Sean Duffy wants "tough love" for Boeing

President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for transportation secretary Sean Duffy discussed troubles with plane manufacturer Boeing and whether he would support more funding for Amtrak at his hearing to lead the Department of Transportation on Wednesday.

Testifying before the Senate Commerce Committee, the former GOP congressman told members that a priority for him would be restoring “global confidence in Boeing.”

The plane maker has had a string of incidents in recent years but said it has made strides to change operations and safety-related incidents.

Sen. Andy Kim of New Jersey asked Duffy about funding for Amtrak, which carried a record number of passengers in fiscal year 2024, and his thoughts on the importance of continuing that funding.

Duffy acknowledged he’s previously voted against funding for Amtrak during his stint in Congress but clarified that he represented a Northern district in Wisconsin where there is no Amtrak presence at the time.

“This committee has spoken loudly about Amtrak and rail in their home communities, and so I’m going to continue to work with the committee and abide by the law, enforce the law, and implement the law as passed by this body,” Duffy said.

Kim, a Democrat, also brought up the mysterious drones that were spotted in his state late last year.

“When it comes to flying over people’s personal homes, certainly when it comes to sensitive critical infrastructure, military installations, others, I think there just needs to be a tightening up here,” Duffy said. “And I think that that’s something we can do in a bipartisan (way) … and we need transparency.”

Bondi declines to say if she would investigate Jack Smith, says "no one has been prejudged"

Attorney General nominee Pam Bondi declined to say whether she would investigate former special counsel Jack Smith if confirmed, saying only that “no one has been prejudged.”

Democratic Sen. Mazie Hirono pressed Bondi over comments she made during the 2024 election cycle that “bad” prosecutors should be held criminally responsible. Donald Trump has repeatedly slammed Smith, saying he unfairly targeted him.

“Is Jack Smith one of those bad prosecutors that you will prosecute as AG?” Hirono asked.

“Senator, you hesitated a bit when I said ‘the bad ones,’” Bondi responded, before being cut off by Hirono.

“Sometimes bad is in the eye of the beholder, I am just asking whether you would consider Jack Smith to be one of the people,” Hirono said. “How about Liz Cheney? How about Merrick Garland?”

Bondi responded: “Senator, I am not going in to hypotheticals. No has been prejudged, nor will anyone be prejudged if I am confirmed.”

The hearing has adjourned for lunch.

Bondi and Rubio hearings are in breaks

The Senate confirmation hearings for President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for US attorney general Pam Bondi and his secretary of state choice Marco Rubio are taking breaks.

So far, Bondi has answered questions about her loyalty to Trump and vowed there will “never be an enemies list” at the Department of Justice if she is confirmed.

She has also made false claims about the phone call between Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in 2021 and falsely claimed “there was a peaceful transition of power,” ignoring the January 6 attack on the US Capitol that disrupted the election certification.

Rubio criticized the International Criminal Court’s case against Israeli government officials, pledged to continue longstanding US policy toward Taiwan and said Russia’s war in Ukraine needs to end.

He also voiced his support for the bipartisan law he co-sponsored that prevents the US from withdrawing from NATO without Senate approval or an act of Congress.

His hearing was interrupted by several protesters.

Rubio pledges to continue longstanding policy toward Taiwan

Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to be secretary of state, pledged to continue longstanding US policy toward Taiwan if confirmed to lead the State Department.

“I was the lead Republican sponsor in reauthorizing and reinvigorating” the Taiwan Relations Act, Rubio said at his Senate confirmation hearing Wednesday.

“Multiple consecutive presidential administrations of both parties have made clear that the policy of the United States towards Taiwan is encapsulated not just in the Taiwan Relations Act, but in the Six Assurances, that multiple administrations, including the Trump administration and now the Biden administration, have made clear are our policies,” he said.

Rubio also backed a strategy of deterrence to stop a Chinese invasion of the self-governing island, which Beijing says is a part of China.

“This is a foundational and definitional issue for Xi Jinping personally, and as a result, I think we need to wrap our head around the fact that unless something dramatic changes, like an equilibrium where they conclude that the costs of intervening in Taiwan are too high, we’re going to have to deal with this before the end of this decade,” the Florida Republican said.

The US does not have official relations with Taiwan but has a strong unofficial relationship and provides Taiwan with defensive weapons. Under the “One China” policy, the US acknowledges China’s position that Taiwan is part of China but has never officially recognized its claims to Taiwan.

Rubio says official US position should be that the Russia-Ukraine war should end

Sen. Marco Rubio testifies before a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on his nomination to be Secretary of State, on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC, on January 15, 2025.

President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for secretary of state, Marco Rubio, said it’s “unrealistic to believe” Ukraine can push Russian forces back to where they were before the 2022 invasion, and that the official US position should be that the war should end.

“It’s … unrealistic to believe that somehow a nation the size of Ukraine, no matter how incompetent and no matter how much damage the Russian Federation has suffered as a result of this invasion, there’s no way Ukraine is also going to push these people all the way back to where they were on the eve of the invasion, just given the size dynamic,” said Rubio at his confirmation hearing Wednesday before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Rubio said that he does not believe Ukraine has the manpower to fully push Russia back.

“The problem that Ukraine is facing is not that they’re running out of money, is that they’re running out of Ukrainians,” Rubio said.

Rubio added he and Trump agree about the war needing to come to an end and criticized the Biden administration for not setting a clear “end goal” for the war.

Such a position would differ from the outgoing Biden administration, which has maintained that negotiations on ending the war should be left up the Ukrainians.

Rubio said that he wanted to make sure Ukraine had leverage in negotiations, but that both Ukraine and the US would have to make concessions to Russia.

“There will have to be concessions made by the Russian Federation, but also by the Ukrainians and the United States,” Rubio said.

Bondi, evolving from her position in court, says she "will follow the law" on special counsels

Former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi testifies before a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on her nomination to be US Attorney General, on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC, on January 15, 2025.

President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for attorney general, Pam Bondi, said during her confirmation hearing Wednesday that she “will follow the law” on special counsels.

Democratic Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware asked Bondi directly about her position opposing the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith, who investigated Trump, and she responded, “I will follow the law.”

The issue of special counsels is one of the biggest questions hanging over the next era of the Justice Department, and Bondi’s approach could signal an openness to again using the prosecutors on politically charged grand jury probes. (She said Wednesday she would not allow investigations that target individuals for political reasons.)

Some context: Attorney General Merrick Garland – and Donald Trump’s Justice Department during his first term – repeatedly used special counsel prosecutors for politically charged investigations, including Smith, Robert Hur, David Weiss, John Durham and Robert Mueller.

But Trump has attacked those appointments in court during his personal cases.

A Trump-appointed federal judge in Florida, Aileen Cannon, and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas have said they disagree with these special counsel appointments, when the attorney general appoints a private lawyer to lead a special prosecutors’ office that hasn’t received explicit congressional approval. The Justice Department is still challenging in court the agency’s power to use special counsel’s offices in Florida.

Bondi’s response to Coons acknowledged the ongoing court challenge, before the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, where she has signed an amicus brief opposing the Smith special counsel appointment.

Yet she also told Coons that at this time, she’d follow where the courts stand – which across the country, and especially in Washington, DC, have allowed special counsels’ criminal cases to move forward, after other judges found their appointments and their work to be sound.
The nationwide law currently is that the attorney general can bring in a private citizen to be a special counsel.

“I will follow the law, and I will consult with the appropriate ethics officials,” Bondi said Wednesday, on the power of the attorney general to appoint a special counsel.

Bondi does not explicitly say that Joe Biden won the 2020 election

Democratic Sen. Mazie Hirono pressed President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for attorney general Pam Bondi on who won the 2020 presidential election — a question Bondi refused to directly answer.

“Ms. Bondi, we want an attorney general who bases decisions on facts. So I want to ask you a factual question. Who won the 2020 presidential election?” Hirono pressed.

“Joe Biden is the president of the United States,” Bondi responded.

“Miss Bondi, you know that there is a difference between acknowledging it and, you know, I can say that Donald Trump won the 2024 election. I may not like it, but I can say it. You cannot say who won the 2020 presidential election. It’s disturbing that you can’t give voice to that fact,” Hirono said.