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Jim Jordan fails to win House speakership on first ballot

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What we covered here

  • First ballot: Rep. Jim Jordan failed to win the House speakership on the initial round Tuesday after 20 of his fellow Republicans voted against him.
  • Next vote: Jordan said the House will vote again tomorrow morning. The Ohio Republican has been meeting with members this afternoon to win over holdouts, and a source told CNN that Jordan is prepared to go as many ballots as it takes to win.
  • About the vote: Jordan — or any other GOP speaker candidate — can only afford to lose four Republican votes tomorrow if all members are present and voting on the floor. A speaker needs a majority of the full House to be elected.
  • Why this matters: The House, which has been without a speaker for two weeks following Kevin McCarthy’s historic ouster, remains effectively frozen. It’s a dire situation that comes as Congress faces a government funding deadline in mid-November and as crisis unfolds abroad in Ukraine and with Israel’s war against Hamas.
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Rep. Jim Jordan lost his first vote for House speaker Tuesday. Here's what you should know

Rep. Jim Jordan leaves the office of House Majority Whip Tom Emmer on Tuesday.

Rep. Jim Jordan failed to win the House speakership on his first bid Tuesday, leaving the House in paralysis after 20 Republicans opposed the Ohio Republican.

The vote, in which Jordan failed to secure a majority of the full House, was a disappointment for Jordan’s allies who had expressed hopes that the number of holdouts would be in the single digits.

After the first vote, the House recessed and Jordan shuffled between the speaker’s office and the majority whip’s office holding meetings.

It’s now been two weeks of high-stakes chaos over the speaker’s gavel following the unprecedented ouster of Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. The House’s slim margin is what led to McCarthy’s removal at the hands of a band of eight GOP rebels – and now a similarly sized group of House Republicans could block Jordan’s ascension, too.

Here’s what else you should know:

  • Today’s vote: Twenty Republicans voted against Jordan, including House Appropriations Chairwoman Kay Granger of Texas, Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart of Florida, Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado and a quartet of New York Republicans in purple districts. The anti-Jordan contingent cast six votes for McCarthy, seven votes for Scalise and three for former New York GOP Rep. Lee Zeldin, among other alternatives.
  • What the GOP is saying: GOP Rep. Doug LaMalfa, a longtime Rep. Kevin McCarthy ally who voted for him on the first ballot in the speaker vote, told reporters he will vote for Rep. Jim Jordan on the second ballot. GOP Rep. Carlos Gimenez, who voted for Rep. Kevin McCarthy as speaker during the last vote, said he would never vote for Jordan but would consider other candidates. McCarthy defended Jordan, saying that Jordan “has just as many votes as I had on the first round.” According to multiple sources, the former speaker is counseling Jordan on speaker strategy. GOP Rep. John James, who voted for Rep. Tom Cole, said he would be open to supporting Jordan in future voting rounds. Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart and John Rutherford both indicated that they aren’t likely to change their votes in future voting rounds after voting for Rep. Steve Scalise. 
  • What Democrats are saying: House Democrats all voted for House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, who got more votes than Jordan for speaker, 212 to 200. Democrats bashed the prospect of Jordan becoming speaker after objecting to the 2020 election result and ignoring the January 6 committee’s subpoena in the last Congress. While Democrats said they would keep supporting Jeffries for speaker, there was some discussion about the possibility of helping an alternative consensus candidate.
  • What’s next: Jordan had initially considered holding a second vote on Tuesday, but told reporters the House will vote again Wednesday morning at 11 a.m. ET. As Jordan meets with a number of allies in hopes of swaying key holdouts, GOP sources say his opposition could grow if the votes continue over multiple rounds of ballots. 

Jeffries indicates Democrats are open to empowering McHenry and says informal talks have "accelerated"

Speaker Pro Tempore Rep. Patrick McHenry presides over the House of Representatives as they prepare to vote on a new Speaker of the House at the Capitol Building on October 17, in Washington, DC. 

House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries indicated that his caucus would be open to reaching some form of agreement with “traditional Republicans” to reopen the House, saying that informal conversations have “accelerated” the last few days and that it’s his hope they will continue.   

When asked by CNN’s Manu Raju if he was open to further empowering interim Speaker Patrick McHenry, Jeffries indicated he was open to the possibility. 

Jeffries also said that conversations between senior Democrats and Republicans have “accelerated” in recent days and that it’s his hope they will continue to do so tonight. 

“The informal conversations that have accelerated over the last few days, my hope, now that it’s clear Jim Jordan lacks the votes to be speaker that those conversations will accelerate this evening,” Jeffries said, adding that he has no meetings planned with the interim speaker but that “high level members on the Democratic side of the aisle are ready, willing and able to have those conversations.”

He also said: “Paging my traditional Republican colleagues. It’s time to get off the sidelines, break away from the extremists. Get in the arena, so we can find a bipartisan path forward.”

Jeffries indicated that Ukraine aid and aid to Israel would have to be part of the agenda when the House reopens.

Rep. Jim Jordan’s flailing speakership bid has exposed fault lines in House GOP leadership

Rep. Jim Jordan on Tuesday as the House of Representatives met to elect a new Speaker of the House at the Capitol in Washington, DC.

Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan’s loss on his first ballot for House speaker Tuesday and his effort to win the gavel despite facing 20 holdouts from within his party, has begun to expose cracks forming within the leadership of the House GOP.

House Majority Whip Tom Emmer and Conference Chair Elise Stefanik have been working behind the scenes to help Jordan flip votes this afternoon, multiple sources familiar tells CNN. But Majority Leader Steve Scalise has decided not to get actively involved – illustrating how the current top Republican leaders are taking different approaches to the speakership drama, with emotions still raw inside the conference. 

After Scalise dropped out of the race and Jordan went on to become the nominee last week, Scalise immediately committed to voting for Jordan and encouraged his supporters to do the same. But, Scalise rebuffed a request from Jordan to give a nominating speech on the floor on Tuesday. And after Jordan failed to secure the speakership on the first ballot, Scalise was noncommittal about helping Jordan further, a source added. 

Jordan’s allies were hoping that Scalise supporters would help whip fellow Scalise allies who voted against Jordan. But Scalise’s allies feel like they did far more to rally around Jordan than Jordan did when Scalise initially won the nomination last week. 

It’s not the first time that the speakership scramble has exposed fault lines in the upper ranks of House GOP leadership. 

After Jordan secured his party’s speaker nomination, former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy urged the conference to rally around Jordan, according to multiple lawmakers in the room. 

It was a notably different posture than the one McCarthy took toward Scalise, his former top deputy who has long been seen as his potential rival. McCarthy did not give a speech after Scalise secured his party nomination on Wednesday, sources said.

And now, McCarthy has been counseling Jordan on his speaker’s race strategy, according to multiple sources familiar with the situation, a far more active role than he appeared to be playing when Scalise was the speaker nominee. 

McCarthy and Jordan were seen huddling on the floor on Tuesday, and after the first ballot, Jordan decamped to the former speaker’s suite. One source noted that McCarthy — who went through 15 rounds of voting before securing the gavel — “has been there before.”

Jordan says next speaker vote will be at 11 a.m. ET tomorrow

Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, who lost his first bid for House speaker earlier Tuesday, announced that a second vote will take place at 11 a.m. ET Wednesday.

Jordan fell significantly short of winning the speaker’s gavel on a first ballot Tuesday, leaving the House in paralysis after 20 Republicans opposed the Ohio congressman.

Jordan told CNN’s Many Raju that he will “keep going” and they’ve had “good conversations this afternoon.” 

When pressed on how many ballots Jordan will go he said “we have to get a speaker.” 

Jordan said the expected return of Florida Rep. Gus Bilirakis, a Jordan supporter who missed the first vote to be at his mother-in-law’s funeral, should help him and insisted they are chipping away at the holdouts. 

He pointed to the fact on the first ballot he had a similar number of defections as former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy who was still able to win the gavel in January after 15 ballots.

Jordan is at risk of seeing his opposition grow over multiple ballots, sources say

As Rep. Jim Jordan meets with a number of allies in hopes of swaying key holdouts to his speakership bid, GOP sources say his opposition could grow if the votes continue over multiple rounds of ballots. 

Jordan is now meeting with key chairmen and top Republicans in House Majority Whip Tom Emmer’s office as they try to lean on holdouts and make offers to win their support.

A GOP source said that some members only committed to backing Jordan for speaker on the first ballot so opposition to the Ohio Republican could grow in future votes.

Analysis: Here's what you should know about Jim Jordan

There’s one main thing to know about Rep. Jim Jordan, the Ohio Republican who does not yet have the votes to become speaker of the House of Representatives.

He’s a passive skeptic of the 2020 presidential election results, but was an active election denier who appeared at a “Stop the Steal” rally in Pennsylvania and also appears to have played a role in former President Donald Trump’s post-election strategy to overturn the results.

Jordan, to this day, does not acknowledge that Trump lost in 2020.

Here are other important elements of Jordan’s professional biography:

  • Not a legislator: Jordan has played a very specific role in Congress, and it is not that of dealmaker, the main job requirement of modern House speakers. In fact, Jordan has never been the primary sponsor of a major piece of legislation that was enacted into law. The Center for Effective Lawmaking ranks members of Congress based on the amount of major legislation that bears their fingerprints, and Jordan’s rating is one of the lowest. Pushing for legislation is clearly not his priority.
  • Attack dog extraordinaire: If you’ve watched a House hearing meant to provide oversight of a Democratic administration, Jordan was probably involved. He was a chief critic of Hillary Clinton during rounds of hearings related to the death of a US ambassador in Benghazi, Libya. More recently, he’s among the top Republican voices building up a political dossier to imply, without direct evidence, that President Joe Biden sought to benefit from his son Hunter’s career.
  • Main contact for Trump’s allies on January 6: When Trump’s then-attorney and henchman Rudy Giuliani wanted to continue to try to delay the counting of electoral votes after the storming of the Capitol on January 6, Jordan was among the lawmakers he called.

Read more about the Ohio Republican.

Jordan holdouts demand immediate second vote

Rep. Mario Díaz-Balart boards an elevator after the House of Representatives failed to elect a new Speaker of the House on the first round of votes at the U.S. Capitol Building on October 17, 2023 in Washington, DC.

GOP Rep. Mario Diaz Balart, who voted against Rep. Jim Jordan for speaker on Tuesday’s first ballot, sent a letter to interim House Speaker Patrick McHenry demanding an immediate second vote on electing a new speaker. 

Rep. Steve Womack of Arkansas and House Appropriations Chair Kay Granger, two other Republican Jordan holdouts, said they agree. 

The vote has not yet been scheduled, but Jordan’s team has vowed to force another floor vote today. 

McCarthy counseling Jordan on speaker strategy, sources say

Kevin McCarthy — who was ousted as House speaker earlier this month — has been counseling Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan on strategy for his own speakership bid, according to multiple sources familiar with the situation.  

Jordan and McCarthy were seen huddling on the floor Tuesday, and Jordan, after losing a floor vote on the first ballot, decamped to the former speaker’s suite. 

One source noted that McCarthy — who went through 15 rounds of voting before securing the speaker’s gavel in January — “has been there before.” 

Scalise wouldn't commit to helping Jordan in speaker race during meeting

Rep. Darrell Issa talks to House Majority Leader Steve Scalise as the House of Representatives prepares to vote on a new Speaker of the House at the Capitol Building on October 17, in Washington, DC.

House Majority Leader Steve Scalise and Rep. Jim Jordan just met, with Jordan asking for Scalise’s help in the speaker race. Scalise wouldn’t commit to doing so.

Some more context: During the first round of voting earlier Tuesday, 20 Republicans did not vote for Rep. Jim Jordan in his first attempt to win the House speakership.

Seven members voted for Scalise during the roll call but Scalise cast his ballot for Jordan.

Scalise dropped out of the race last week after facing opposition.

Jordan plans for second floor vote for House speaker later today

Rep. Jim Jordan talks with fellow lawmakers as the House of Representatives meets to elect a new Speaker of the House at the U.S. Capitol Building on October 17 in Washington, DC.

Rep. Jim Jordan, who lost his first bid for House speaker earlier Tuesday, is planning to go back on the floor for a second vote later in the day, the Ohio Republican told reporters.

Jordan is currently shuffling between House Majority Whip Tom Emmer’s office and the speaker’s office holding meetings.

“That’s the plan,” Jordan said when asked if he would return to the floor for another vote later today. “We need to get a speaker as soon as possible.”

Jordan told reporters he hasn’t heard any concerns from members over the tactics he is using to secure support for his speakership bid.

The House remains in paralysis after the Ohio congressman fell significantly short of winning the speaker’s gavel on a first ballot Tuesday, with 20 Republicans opposed to Jordan.

McCarthy compares Jordan’s first ballot failure to his own run for speaker

Former Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy talks with Rep. Jim Jordan and other lawmakers and staff as the House of Representatives meets to elect a new Speaker of the House at the U.S. Capitol Building on October 17, 2023 in Washington, DC.

Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy compared Rep. Jim Jordan’s failed first round of voting to his own marathon run to secure the gavel back in January.

He said the next step now will be to meet with the holdouts.

Key things to know about Jim Jordan, the Ohio Republican vying to be House speaker

Rep. Jim Jordan participates in the press conference calling on President Trump to declassify the Carter Page FISA applications on Thursday, September 6, 2018.

Rep. Jim Jordan, who lost in his first attempt on Tuesday to become the next speaker of the House, has been a key figure in House GOP-led investigations and made a name for himself as a staunch ally of former President Donald Trump.

Jordan, who has served in Congress since 2007 and was endorsed by Trump in his bid for the speakership, serves as chairman of the powerful House Judiciary Committee. He has a longstanding reputation as a conservative agitator and helped found the hardline House Freedom Caucus.

In addition to chairing the House Judiciary Committee, Jordan is also the chair of the select subcommittee on the “weaponization” of the federal government. When former Speaker Kevin McCarthy announced a House GOP impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden, he said House Oversight Chairman James Comer would lead the effort in coordination with Jordan as Judiciary chair and Ways and Means Committee Chair Jason Smith.

While Republicans say their investigative work is critical to informing the American public and ensuring accountability, Democrats frequently criticize Jordan as a hyper-partisan Trump defender and have accused him of using his perch to shield the former president in the run up to the 2024 presidential election. 

As Jordan oversees key House GOP investigations, Democrats also point to the fact that he stonewalled in response to a subpoena for his testimony from the House select committee that investigated the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

Jordan, who supported objections to Electoral College results when Congress met to certify Biden’s presidential win on January 6, 2021, has downplayed concerns that he may be too conservative for some of the more moderate members of the GOP.

If Jordan wins the vote, his election as speaker would come after his own supporters blocked Majority Leader Steve Scalise’s path to the speaker’s gavel last week. While Jordan said he would support Scalise, more than a dozen of his supporters refused to support the House majority leader after Scalise defeated Jordan in a conference vote last week, 113 to 99.

Scalise dropped out in the face of the entrenched opposition, giving Jordan the opportunity to get the conference behind him.

Last week, in a vote asking GOP conference members if they would support Jordan on the floor, 55 Republicans said they would not. The Ohio Republican has since chipped away at a divided party, gaining the support of key skeptics ahead of a challenging floor vote in which Jordan can afford to lose only four Republicans if every House member votes.

Jordan, a former assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State University, has been accused of turning a blind eye to alleged sexual abuse. CNN reported in 2020 that six OSU wrestlers said they were present when Jordan heard or responded to sexual misconduct complaints about team doctor Richard Strauss, who died in 2005.

Jordan has emphatically denied that he knew anything about Strauss’ abuse during his own years working at OSU between the late 80s and the early 90s. “Congressman Jordan never saw any abuse, never heard about any abuse, and never had any abuse reported to him during his time as a coach at Ohio State,” his congressional office said in 2018.

20 holdouts is significantly more than Jordan and his team expected

Rep. Jim Jordan, fresh off the loss of his first ballot, is working behind the scenes to shore up more votes for a second House speaker ballot after losing a surprising 20 Republican votes.

Those 20 votes, according to CNN’s Manu Raju, represents a significantly higher number of GOP House members opposing Jordan’s speaker bid than his team had first anticipated.

Jordan’s allies believed the number of GOP opponents had shrunk from the 55 who voted Friday against supporting him on the House floor to roughly eight-to-10 holdouts after working to chip away at lawmakers over the past several days.

“They thought they were better than [Kevin] McCarthy did in January when he lost 19 Republicans on that first ballot. 20 Republicans is a significant deficit for him to make up,” Raju said, referring to McCarthy’s marathon race for speaker that lasted 15 ballots.

Jordan is meeting privately with some of the holdouts, according to several Republicans, to allay their concerns and convince them to vote for him in a future round or vote present — which would change the threshold to be elected speaker.

Rep. Jim Jordan's spokesperson says another vote series is expected today

Rep. Jim Jordan stands alone at the back wall of the House Chamber shortly before the start of the first round of voting for a new Speaker at the Capitol in Washington, DC, on October 17.

A spokesperson for Rep. Jim Jordan said they expect another speaker vote series today.

Some more context: Jordan failed to win the House speakership earlier on Tuesday on the first ballot after 20 of his fellow Republicans voted against him. He earned 200 votes, while House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries won 212.

The House went into recess immediately after the vote was gaveled.

Here's how the ongoing fight for speakership is making history

Temporary House leader Rep. Patrick McHenry presides as Republicans try to elect Rep. Jim Jordan at the Capitol in Washington, DC, on Tuesday.

It’s proving to be a historic year in the House.

It took former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy multiple days of negotiations and 15 rounds of voting earlier this year to finally get elected — only to be ousted nine months later. No House speaker had ever before been ousted through the passage of a resolution to remove them.

And now, Rep. Jim Jordan failed on his first ballot to become House speaker.

McCarthy’s January 15-vote-long bid was the longest speakership bid in more than 160 years, when it took 44 voting rounds in 1859 to elect a speaker.

In fact, a House speaker election had not gone to multiple ballots in 100 years. In 1923, it took nine ballots for Rep. Frederick Gillett of Massachusetts to be elected speaker.

And in 1849, the House had been in session so long without being able to elect a speaker – 19 days – that members voted to elect their speaker with a plurality rather than a majority. Members ultimately confirmed the plurality election with a majority vote.

Multiple-ballot House speaker elections were more common before the Civil War.

Jordan’s failed first ballot sets the House up for a second multiple-round speaker bid this year.

Reps. Diaz-Balart and Rutherford indicate they remain "no" on Jordan

Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart and John Rutherford both indicated that they aren’t likely to change their votes in future rounds after voting for Rep. Steve Scalise this afternoon. 

Rutherford also indicated he would stick with Scalise going forward, and believes the party should find a “consensus” candidate. 

“I think now we’re gonna have to find a consensus candidate,” he said. “I kind of like Patrick McHenry.” 

Rep. John James says he’s open to voting for Jordan in future rounds

GOP Rep. John James, who voted for Rep. Tom Cole for House speaker on today’s ballot, said he would be open to supporting Rep. Jim Jordan in future rounds of voting, saying he plans to speak with him later. 

When asked if he would vote for Jordan in the future, James said: “Standby.”

After the failed vote, CNN reported that Jordan is meeting with members to attempt to win over holdouts. He’s meeting with them in the cloak room off the House floor.

GOP lawmaker who voted against Jordan calls House speaker role "worst job in America"

GOP Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado, who helped to kill Rep. Jim Jordan’s first bid for speaker Tuesday by casting his vote for Rep. Tom Emmer, called the House speaker position the “worst job in America.”

Buck, who also voted to oust former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy earlier this month, said he was not surprised 20 Republicans did not vote for Jordan.

He added that “if we get a second vote, Jim is going to lose some votes that he got on the first vote and he’s going to gain some votes. But I anticipate that the vote will still be in that 15 to 25 range.”

Buck himself said there is “no way” he will cast his vote for Jordan. He said the House may need to find a bipartisan resolution like voting to extend temporary House Speaker Patrick McHenry’s ability to bring legislation onto the floor.

McCarthy defends Jordan after he loses on first round of votes for speaker

Former Speaker of the House Rep. Kevin McCarthy speaks to reporters as he leaves the House chamber after Republicans failed in their first attempt to elect Rep. Jim Jordan to be the new House speaker, at the Capitol in Washington, DC, on Tuesday.

Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy defended Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan after Jordan lost the first round of votes for the speakership, saying Jordan “has just as many votes as I had on the first round.”

“The difference here is we have rules and we can sit down and talk to the other members and be able to move forward,” he said, brushing away claims by Jordan allies that he was in striking distance when 20 Republicans voted against him. “What I saw was the exact same vote I got when I ran and I became speaker.”

McCarthy said that unlike in January, the chamber can pause to allow discussions to happen between members. 

“Now we have rules. We don’t have to be stuck on the floor,” he said, and blamed “every single Democrat” who he said “voted to stop one branch of government.”

“We’ll go sit down, we’ll talk to those who have a difference of opinion and come back,” he said.

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