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These are the key takeaways from CNN's Iowa town hall with Ron DeSantis

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis participates in a CNN Republican Town Hall moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper at Grand View University in Des Moines, Iowa, on Tuesday, December 12.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Tuesday showed new urgency in taking on Donald Trump, attacking the former president at every turn at a CNN town hall in Iowa with the state’s caucuses less than five weeks away.

In the town hall at Grand View University in Des Moines, moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper, DeSantis turned most questions into opportunities to contrast his record as governor with Trump. 

Here are takeaways from the CNN town hall:

Focusing on the front-runner: DeSantis came out of the gate with a clear focus on closing his polling gap in the Hawkeye State with Trump.

He took an early shot at Trump, blaming the former president for the country’s inflation woes under current President Joe Biden and for his Republican rival’s actions at the start of the Covid pandemic.

It continued extensively from there, with DeSantis lobbing a total of eight attacks on the former president over the course of the hour. He dinged Trump for failing to finish the wall at the US-Mexico border as he had famously promised in 2016; for not debating him; for criticizing Florida’s new six-week abortion ban; and for not replacing Obamacare with a Republican alternative.

It was a striking string of attacks, though, not because it covered new ground. DeSantis has lobbed similar critiques at Trump on the campaign trail for weeks. But he has rarely, in a prime-time appearance, narrowed his attacks so directly at the former president, and at every turn.

DeSantis says Trump is “flip-flopping” on abortion: DeSantis has faced criticism – including within the GOP – for signing into law a measure that bans most abortions after about six weeks, with Trump implying it was “too harsh.”

He argued Tuesday night that Florida’s law includes exceptions for situations such as the one faced by Kate Cox, the Texas woman who sought court approval to have an abortion after learning her fetus has a fatal condition and doctors told her she could risk her future fertility if she doesn’t get the procedure. The Texas Supreme Court on Monday ruled against her, even though Cox had already left the state to seek an abortion elsewhere.

The six-week abortion ban that DeSantis signed in Florida includes limited exceptions for cases of rape, incest, pregnancies that jeopardize the life of the mother and fatal fetal defects.

He then pivoted to an attack on Trump, noting the former president had, while in office, strongly opposed abortion rights. He said Trump is now “flip-flopping on the right to life.”

On a two-state solution and Israel: DeSantis sharply disagreed with Biden, who earlier Tuesday had warned in a closed-door fundraiser that Israel was losing international support for its campaign against Hamas amid its heavy bombardment of Gaza following the October 7 terrorist attacks.

Biden said that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government “does not want a two-state solution,” referring to the idea of a Palestinian state existing alongside the state of Israel.

DeSantis, though, said Tuesday night that such a solution would be impossible because some groups “want to destroy Israel more than they want their own state.”

DeSantis dodges on Obamacare and Social Security: Though DeSantis criticized Trump for not implementing a replacement for the Affordable Care Act, his own plan remains to be determined.

DeSantis said he would roll out his own health care plan “deeper in the election season” – meaning likely after Republicans in the early-nominating states have already picked their nominee.

Similarly, DeSantis criticized Haley’s position on reforming Social Security, but he largely avoided specifics on how he would preserve its longevity – avoiding a topic that dogged him earlier in the campaign season.

Read more of the key moments from the Iowa town hall with Ron DeSantis.

Fact Check: DeSantis on life expectancy  

DeSantis participates in a CNN Republican Town Hall moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper at Grand View University in Des Moines, Iowa, on Tuesday.

Asked about the need to reform Social Security, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis criticized his rival former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley for wanting to raise the retirement age. He pointed to the nation’s demographic trends.

“Life expectancy is declining in this country. It’s tragic, but it’s true,” he said. 

Facts First: It’s true that life expectancy suffered historic drops during the first two years of the Covid-19 pandemic, but DeSantis’ claim needs context. Life expectancy started to rebound last year, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.  

In 2022, life expectancy at birth rose by 1.1 years to 77.5 years, according to provisional CDC data. But it’s still lower than it has been in roughly 20 years. The recent increase offset less than half of the 2.4 years of life lost in the first two years of the pandemic.  

A decline in mortality from Covid-19 was a main reason why life expectancy rose last year. About 245,000 people died from Covid-19 in 2022, down from more than 462,000 deaths in 2021 and from about 385,000 deaths in 2020, according to CDC data.  

Fact Check: DeSantis on Social Security

DeSantis participates in a CNN Republican Town Hall moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper at Grand View University in Des Moines, Iowa, on Tuesday.

When asked how he would protect Social Security for future generations, Ron DeSantis blamed Congress for the entitlement program’s financial troubles. 

“Congress has taken money out of the Social Security fund for decades. They used to have surpluses there — Congress needed more money to do its spending so they take it and they spend it and then they’d write IOUs. That’s the main reason why Social Security is having fiscal challenges,” DeSantis said. 

Facts First: DeSantis’ explanation here is inaccurate. The federal government has essentially borrowed from Social Security, but that is not the main reason why the program is facing insolvency in just over a decade. The primary problem is demographics – there are not enough workers to support the growing number of Social Security beneficiaries. 

Even after all the borrowed funds have been paid back, the Social Security trust fund for retirees and survivors is projected to run dry in a decade, said Marc Goldwein, senior policy director for the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a government watchdog organization. At that time, beneficiaries could face a 23% cut in benefits.  

Social Security is on shaky financial ground in large part because of the aging of the American population. Fewer workers are paying into the program and supporting the ballooning number of beneficiaries, who are also living longer. 

In pictures: CNN's Republican Town Hall with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis took the stage on Tuesday night in a CNN town hall in Iowa ahead of the state’s caucuses next month.

DeSantis has been in a race with former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley to be the main alternative to former President Donald Trump for the party’s nomination. He turned most questions into opportunities to contrast his record as governor with Trump.

See photos from the event:

Republican presidential candidate and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis participates in a CNN Republican Town Hall moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper at Grand View University in Des Moines, Iowa, on Tuesday, December 12.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis came out of the gate with a clear focus on closing his polling gap in the Hawkeye State with Trump.
Audience members listen as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis answers a question during the town hall.
CNN's Jake Tapper moderated the town hall on Tuesday in Des Moines.
Florida first lady Casey DeSantis reacts as her husband answers a question.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis poses with an audience member following the town hall.

Fact Check: DeSantis on rescuing people from Israel

DeSantis gestures as he speaks during CNN's Republican Town Hall on Tuesday.

Ron DeSantis claimed he rescued people in Israel after the October 7 Hamas attack because the US State Department and embassy in Israel “wasn’t helping them.”

Facts first: DeSantis’ claim is both untrue and needs context. 

It is inaccurate to say that the State Department did not help Americans in Israel after Hamas’ October 7 attack. National Security Council spokesman John Kirby announced on October 12 that the US government would begin arranging charter flights for Americans seeking to leave Israel on October 13. The first US government flight out of Israel landed in Athens on October 13.

Separately, DeSantis declared a state of emergency in Florida on October 12, allowing him to access a $500 million fund that does not require legislative approval, to evacuate people from Israel to Tampa. He told reporters in New Hampshire in October that he anticipated the first evacuation flight would land in Florida on October 15 — two days after the first US government flight came out of Israel.

Biden campaign calls DeSantis performance at CNN town hall "signature rant and scare tactics"

The Biden campaign said Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis used “his signature rant and scare tactics” at Tuesday night’s CNN town hall in Iowa.

The statement also refers to former President Donald Trump as DeSantis’ “frienemy” and accuses the Florida governor of not caring about families in the middle class.

“Ron and his mentor turned frienemy, Donald J. Trump, have the same posture on helping middle class families: they just don’t care,” Newsom said.

The California governor also touted the Biden administration’s record and said that Americans have to “vote for democracy” in the 2024 election.

Fact Check: DeSantis on grocery prices 

DeSantis participates in a CNN Republican Town Hall moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper at Grand View University in Des Moines, Iowa, on Tuesday.

Ron DeSantis claimed that grocery prices have gone up “way more than 10%,” saying they’ve gone up “50%, 75% and maybe 100%.” 

Facts first: DeSantis’ claim about grocery price increases is false.  

While the price of food has risen significantly over the last few years amid rising inflation, grocery prices have not gone up between 50% and 100%. According to the latest data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, food prices in the US increased 2.9% for the year ended in November. Overall, food prices have risen 26% since November 2019. 

DeSantis after Sununu endorses Haley: "If someone doesn't endorse me, I'm not gonna go trash them"

DeSantis participates in a CNN Republican Town Hall moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper at Grand View University in Des Moines, Iowa, on Tuesday.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said he wasn’t going to “trash” New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu for his endorsement of his 2024 rival Nikki Haley.  

“Unlike some people running, if someone doesn’t endorse me, I’m not gonna go trash them,” DeSantis said, clearly referencing former President Donald Trump, who slammed Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds after she endorsed DeSantis. 

DeSantis criticized Haley for “getting funded by liberal Democrats,” specifically mentioning the LinkedIn CEO Reid Hoffman and JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon. 

Speaking directly to the audience, DeSantis said, “Guess what, guys, those folks do not want to see conservative change in this country.” 

DeSantis also attacked Haley for recently calling for name verification on social media, a proposal that he previously called “dangerous and unconstitutional.”

“She’s going to demand that everyone produce their name on social media,” DeSantis said. “Conservatives have been singled out for expressing opinions on social media. People have been canceled. They’ve lost jobs over this. Why would she want to put our own people under there? So, I think there’s so many problems with her policy positions.”

At the time, Haley’s campaign said her proposal was intended to “crackdown on Chinese, Iranian, and Russian bots.”

DeSantis characterized Haley as “reflective of the old, failed Republican establishment of yesteryear.” 

“We do not need to go back to that, but I will say this, Chris is great. He’s done a great job as governor. He’s a great campaigner. And I look forward to campaigning with him next fall in New Hampshire, as the Republican nominee,” he said.

DeSantis criticizes Trump's handling of a Satanic Temple's religious classification

Former Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis criticized the former President Donald Trump’s administration for granting the Satanic Temple religious classification under the Internal Revenue Service in 2019.

CNN’s town hall moderator Jake Tapper clarified that the 2019 move does not mean the government necessarily supports the group, to which DeSantis agreed.

The group is now receiving attention in Iowa after organizers put up a satanic holiday display in the state capitol and some Republicans are calling for the display to come down.

DeSantis claimed that the ruling under the Trump administration possibly gave the group “a legal leg to stand on,” while going on to say that he does not believe the organization is a religion “that the founding fathers were trying to create.”

“In Florida, I don’t think we probably would have had it up,” he said.

Fact Check: DeSantis on Florida’s economy 

Ron DeSantis answers a question during the CNN Republican Town Hall on Tuesday in Des Moines, Iowa.

GOP presidential candidate Ron DeSantis claimed Florida’s economy is “ranked number one of all 50 states” and that the state’s “unemployment rate is 60% lower than states like California.”  

Facts First: DeSantis’ first claim is accurate – at least based on one source: CNBC declared Florida the nation’s top economy in a July article. It’s worth noting, of course, that various media rankings use differing subjective methodologies. But he’s exaggerating how much lower Florida’s unemployment rate is when compared to California’s.   

In October, Florida’s unemployment rate was 2.8% — tied for the 11th-best unemployment rate in the nation. That’s roughly 42% lower than California’s unemployment rate at 4.8%.  

Here are some other official figures. In October, Florida was tied for the third-strongest year-over-year job growth of all 50 states. The state had the country’s 11th-best increase in real GDP growth, 3.5%, between the final quarter of 2022 and the first quarter of 2023.    

However, the state is struggling with inflation, with two metro areas, Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach and Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, high on the list of the metros with the worst inflation rates in the country over the last year. That’s in part because strong population growth has pushed up housing prices in these areas, but it is an economic problem nonetheless.   

Fact Check: DeSantis on oil drilling

DeSantis responds to a question during CNN's Republican Town Hall on Tuesday.

Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis pledged to “open up” domestic energy production “so that you pay less for gas.”

Facts First: As he did on Tuesday, DeSantis’ frequent campaign claim that the US can lower gas prices by producing more domestic oil is misleading. 

Under President Joe Biden, US oil production has reached a new record this year, even surpassing output under former President Donald Trump. As CNN has reported, the US currently produces more oil than any other country on the planet, at about half a million barrels per day more than the prior annual record set in 2019.

Prices at the pump in the US are highly dependent on the global oil market and the US cannot be truly energy independent when it comes to gas prices, energy experts have told CNN. Oil is a global commodity; the global price of oil determines US gas prices and it’s simply impossible to separate that price from shifting global dynamics like Russia’s war on Ukraine or OPEC’s recent decisions to cut oil production.

There’s also the fact that the US consumes a different kind of oil than it produces, Bob McNally, president of Rapidan Energy Group, and a former George W. Bush White House official, told CNN last year. McNally compared the light crude the US produces to champagne, and the heavy crude it imports to coffee. US oil refineries are specifically built to separate out the “heavy and gunky” crude we consume, McNally said.

Pork on a stick was DeSantis' favorite food item at the Iowa State Fair

GOP candidate Ron DeSantis said he enjoyed pork on a stick the most at the Iowa State Fair.

Brooks Reynolds, the co-founder of the Blue Ribbon Bacon Festival and a Republican voter who is currently undecided, asked the Florida governor about his favorite food item at the fair.

DeSantis made sure to clarify that he ate the pork on a stick out of the public eye.

“They said, if you get a picture of it, you know, it’s a really bad thing,” DeSantis said, getting a few laughs from the crowd.

DeSantis slams Trump's claim that his 2016 debate against Clinton was braver than a military battle

DeSantis participates in a CNN Republican Town Hall moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper at Grand View University in Des Moines, Iowa, on Tuesday, December 12.

Former President Donald Trump recently suggesting that his 2016 debate performance against Hillary Clinton after the release of the Access Hollywood tape was braver than a military battle is offensive and wrong, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said Tuesday.

Trump has opted out of presidential primary debates this election cycle, citing his overwhelming lead in the polls, which DeSantis said indicated a sense of entitlement. 

“He doesn’t think he owes it to Iowans. He doesn’t think he owes it to Granite Staters to show up and debate and answer questions,” DeSantis said. 

As he often does on the trail, DeSantis argued that Trump is a different brand of candidate today than he was in 2015 and 2016. 

“Back then, he was colorful, but it was really America first about the policies. Now, a lot of it’s about him,” DeSantis said. 

More context: Delivering a speech at the New York Young Republican Club Gala Saturday, Trump said: “A general, who’s a fantastic general, said to me, ‘Sir, I’ve been on the battlefield, men have been gunned down on my left and on my right. I’ve stood on hills where soldiers were killed, but I believe the bravest thing I’ve ever seen was the night you went unto that stage with Hillary Clinton after what happened.”

The next day, DeSantis posted on X: “Trump denigrates military service by claiming it is ‘braver’ that he debated Hillary Clinton than what soldiers endure on the battlefield. Debating isn’t ‘brave;’ it’s the bare minimum any candidate should do. Hiding from debates, on the other hand, is an example of cowardice.”

DeSantis, who served in the US Navy as a Judge Advocate General’s Corps officer, said his military experience would color the way he would approach foreign policy and potentially sending troops into harm’s way as president.

While he believes in “peace through strength,” DeSantis said if troops are sent, they need to have a “clear objective” of what mission they’re trying to fulfill.  

“We can’t have these situations where people are toiling for years and years in these foreign countries with no concrete example of victory. So, I hope to never do it, but if we ever need to, we are going to win,” DeSantis said. 

DeSantis claims he's the "only person running who can beat Trump one-on-one"

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said it is up to the voters to create an actual competitor against former President Donald Trump in the upcoming presidential election.

When asked by Iowa voter Jessica Dunker of the possibility of uniting with other GOP candidates to support one viable Trump rival, DeSantis said “that’s what the Iowa caucus is.”

He claimed the other candidates in the race “cannot get enough support from core Republicans and traditional conservatives to be able to vote.”

“You can’t just win with a slice of the party. You got to have broad support.” DeSantis said. “We’ll be able to do that going forward.”

DeSantis comes after Trump's "flip-flopping" stance on abortion

DeSantis responds to a question during CNN's Republican Town Hall on Tuesday.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis came after former President Donald Trump’s stance on abortion, claiming that his fellow presidential candidate is “flip-flopping on the right to life.”

He claimed in a 2020 speech, Trump “said that all life is a gift from God” and emphasized the importance of abortion laws. But now, DeSantis said, Trump has “attacked states that have enacted protections — like heartbeat bills — as being a terrible, terrible thing.”

DeSantis also highlighted the pro-life protections he enacted during his time as governor.

"A promise made is a promise kept": DeSantis pledges to keep social security benefits for seniors

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis answers a question during a CNN Republican Town Hall moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper on Tuesday.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis pledged to keep social security benefits in place for current seniors.

“You have been taxed to pay into it your whole life,” DeSantis said at a CNN town hall in Iowa. He was answering a question from Jeanne Lubavs, who is a retired engineer and an undecided Republican voter.

The Florida governor said he understands the importance of making sure seniors have benefits, especially with prices and cost of living going up.

CNN’s Jake Tapper pressed DeSantis about benefits for younger people and pointed out criticism from his opponent, former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, about the system needing some reform in the long term.

“You got to have bipartisan agreement,” DeSantis said.

“I’m willing to work with both sides and we got to come up with a solution for the long-term. But, in the short-term, just know, seniors, this is a priority for me to make sure that you have your benefits,” he said, without spelling out exactly what that long-term reform might be.

Some context: There’s no debating that Social Security and Medicare, the government’s health insurance program for older and disabled Americans, face long-term financial issues.

The combined Social Security trust fund reserves are on pace to be depleted in 2034, according to the most recent estimates from the program’s trustees. Without those reserves, Social Security will be able to pay only about 80% of benefits from the income that continues to flow into the program.

Medicare, meanwhile, will have only enough money in its hospital insurance trust fund to pay all scheduled benefits until 2031, after which it will be able to cover only 89% of costs, according to the most recent Medicare trustees report.

Nearly 67 million Americans have received monthly Social Security benefits this year, and more than 66 million people are enrolled in Medicare. Polling shows little support for major changes to the programs themselves to help shore up their finances.

March CNN/SSRS poll of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, for instance, found that 59% said it was “essential” that the GOP nominee for president “pledges to maintain Social Security and Medicare as they are.”

And just 7% of Republicans surveyed in October in an AP/NORC poll said that the government was spending too much on Social Security.

CNN’s Fredreka Schouten contributed reporting to this post.

DeSantis dismisses polls showing Trump with commanding lead: "Iowa voters will choose"

DeSantis participates in a CNN Republican Town Hall at Grand View University in Des Moines, Iowa, on Tuesday, December 12.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis dismissed poll numbers showing former President Donald Trump’s commanding lead, describing it as a “narrative,” and called on Iowans to choose the candidates who best represent their values. 

The latest Des Moines Register/NBC/Mediacom poll, shows DeSantis trailing Trump by 32 points in Iowa. DeSantis suggested that this is a media narrative.

Telling voters that they are the ones who have agency in this election, DeSantis said: “Do not let the media choose your candidate. Do not let a pundit choose your candidate. Choose the candidate that’s best going to represent your values and is going to give this country the leadership that it deserves.” 

DeSantis said that he’s confident that he’s the candidate to provide that kind of leadership.

“I’m grateful that we already have a huge number of Iowans who’ve already signed up to support us and we ask all the Iowans that are undecided, come join our team,” he added.

DeSantis criticizes Republicans for using US-Mexico border crisis to get donations during elections

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis answers a question during the town hall on Tuesday.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis criticized fellow Republicans for using the crisis at the US-Mexico border as an issue to get donations during election cycles.

Responding to a question from Davis Witt, an Iowa Republican torn between DeSantis and Trump, about how he would handle the crisis at the border differently than former President Donald Trump, DeSantis said: “I am going to build the border wall.”

DeSantis went on to say he believes Trump got distracted during his term as president on the issue and emphasized that he thinks that building a wall would be a strong deterrence for people illegally crossing into the US from Mexico.

Some background: Amid ongoing the debate in Washington over border security, authorities on the ground are grappling with the latest migrant surge, reminiscent of the high number of crossings earlier this year that raised alarm bells across the Biden administration.

Last Tuesday, border authorities encountered more than 10,000 migrants along the US southern border, according to a Homeland Security official. The Del Rio and Tucson sectors were the busiest. As of Wednesday morning, there were around 23,000 migrants in Border Patrol custody, the official told CNN.

The surge is the latest example of the Biden administration’s policy changes running into realities on the ground. Despite a series of policy changes and levying consequences, such as restarting repatriation flights to Venezuela, migrants continue to cross the US-Mexico border amid unprecedented migration across the Western hemisphere.

CNN’s Priscilla Alvarez contributed reporting to this post.

DeSantis says Israel's war in Gaza is the more critical conflict to fund with US tax dollars

DeSantis answers a question during a CNN Republican Town Hall on Tuesday in Des Moines, Iowa.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said that if he had to choose, the war between Israel and Hamas is the more critical conflict for the American people to support with tax dollars over the war in Ukraine.

Asked by an Iowa voter Tuesday night to choose which conflict was more important for funding, DeSantis said Israel is “our strongest ally in the Middle East.”

He made the argument that Ukraine has “all of Europe” to support it, while claiming that Israel lacks that kind of support.

DeSantis called on European countries to “rise up to the occasion” and assist Ukraine’s military in its war against Russia.

He went on to later claim that “the world is coming after Israel” due to antisemitism and said the country “gets targeted and singled out more than any other country in the world.”

More on this issue: DeSantis’s comments come after President Joe Biden voiced criticism of Israel’s hardline government Tuesday and said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu needed to alter his approach. 

“I think he has to change, and with this government, this government in Israel is making it very difficult for him to move,” Biden said, calling Netanyahu’s government the “most conservative government in Israel’s history.” 

He warned support for the country’s military campaign is waning amid heavy bombardment of Gaza and added that the Israeli government “doesn’t want a two-state solution.” 

Speaking ahead of Biden’s comments at the fundraiser, Netanyahu admitted Tuesday that he and the US president disagree on what should happen to Gaza after the war. In a statement, the Israeli leader said: “Yes, there is disagreement about ‘the day after Hamas’ and I hope that we will reach agreement here as well.” 

The pair of remarks amounted to some of the most candid to date when it comes to the persistent differences between Israel and the United States, its top international ally. 

Biden administration officials have been pressing their Israeli counterparts in recent weeks to begin planning for what happens in Gaza once the military campaign ends, including insisting on keeping the door open for an eventual Palestinian state. 

DeSantis says Donald Trump mishandled the Covid-19 pandemic

Republican presidential candidate and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis participates in a CNN Republican Town Hall moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper at Grand View University in Des Moines, Iowa, on Tuesday, December 12.

Tuesday’s town hall opened with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis taking a swipe at the former president, saying Donald Trump mishandled the Covid-19 pandemic when it came to the economy.

Tim Bianco, an undecided Republican Iowa voter who owns a manufacturing business, asked DeSantis why his employees should trust him over Trump.

DeSantis responded by touting the economy in his state and naming inflation as something he would fix as president.

He said as president he would “get the inflation down” and “open up energy” to drop gas prices, though did not give any specific details on how he would accomplish those things.

“I think your hard-working employees are going to have a friend in the White House,” he told Bianco.