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May 25, 2023 Latest on debt ceiling negotiations

US House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) speaks during a meeting on the debt ceiling with US President Joe Biden, not pictured, in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, DC, on May 22, 2023. President Joe Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy are expected to meet Monday for more talks on defusing the US debt ceiling standoff, both sides said on May 21, 2023. (Photo by SAUL LOEB / AFP) (Photo by SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)
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What we covered here

  • Signs of progress: White House officials and Republican negotiators continue moving closer to an agreement to raise the debt ceiling while also capping spending, two sources familiar with the matter said late Thursday.
  • Under the potential deal, the debt ceiling would be raised for two years while also capping federal spending – except for defense and veterans spending – for the same period, the sources said.
  • Looming deadline: As the Treasury Department’s June 1 estimated default date nears, warning signs are beginning to appear. A top credit rating agency signaled Wednesday it could downgrade the US debt rating if lawmakers do not act.

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Negotiators continue moving closer to deal to raise debt ceiling while also capping spending, sources say

White House officials and Republican negotiators are continuing to move closer to an agreement to raise the debt ceiling while also capping spending, two sources familiar with the matter said late Thursday.

The agreement is not yet finalized and there are a series of other outstanding issues beyond spending levels, with both sides especially far apart on work requirements for social safety net programs. 

Under the potential agreement, the debt ceiling would be raised for two years while also capping federal spending — except for defense and veterans spending — for the same period, two sources familiar with the negotiations said.

A separate source who’s also familiar with negotiations said the two sides are still working out details on the length of the spending caps deal, which Democrats have insisted should only last for as long as a debt ceiling raise.

Based on current discussions, non-defense discretionary spending levels would be cut to a level slightly below funding levels for the current fiscal year. 

Discretionary spending would be allowed to rise by 1% in the second year of the agreement, the sources said.

Both sides still remain far apart on work requirements with Republicans still looking to add them to Medicaid, SNAP and TANF.

GOP negotiator Garret Graves told CNN Thursday evening that progress is slow, voicing frustration with the White House over key aspects of the negotiations, especially work requirements. 

Top credit agency warns it could downgrade 2 government-backed mortgage giants

Fitch Ratings is putting two government-backed mortgage giants on watch for credit ratings downgrades as the standoff over the debt ceiling lingers.

It said the decision to put Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on watch for downgrades “reflects the uncertainty” on the US credit rating. Fitch is one of the top three credit rating agencies along with Moody’s and S&P.

Fitch added that it is unclear how much support the government-sponsored enterprises, or GSEs, can expect from Washington if the United States were to default on some of its obligations.

Some context: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac do not issue loans, rather they purchase loans from lenders to hold, sell or repackage as investments. Their role in the mortgage market helps lenders issue more loans and keep lending stable and affordable. The Federal Housing Finance Agency is the government regulator that oversees Fannie and Freddie.

The move comes just a day after Fitch put the United States itself on rating watch negative due standoff in Washington surrounding the debt ceiling.

A look at how Treasury Department team monitors economic warning signs

The exterior of the Treasury Department building is pictured March 13 in Washington, DC.

Nearly five months before the US was projected to hit the debt ceiling, a small team inside the Treasury Department began alerting top officials to early effects already being felt in the US financial system. 

The cost of insuring US debt, as measured by the price of credit-default swaps, was rising — a sign that investors were beginning to view US bonds and other securities as increasingly risky.

That early warning — and subsequent ones over the last month as the swaps pricing has surged — came out of the Treasury Department’s Markets Room and its eponymous team of nine financial analysts who are responsible for monitoring and analyzing global financial markets to inform the policy work of top Treasury Department and White House officials.  

As the US rapidly approaches a potential default date in early June, top US officials are increasingly relying on the Markets Room to monitor for signs of disruption in the financial markets. 

“So, we’re spending a lot of time with them better understanding what the costs are today, in order to make sure that we’re in a position to share that information with Congress, in order to prevent us from getting into a position where for the first time in our history, we’re unable to pay all of our obligations on time,” he said.

That work begins each day before dawn when staffers take turns waking up around 3:30 a.m. ET to compile data about overnight market developments and begin making calls to contacts working in European and Asian markets. 

At around 7 a.m. ET, those data and insights land in the inboxes of top policymakers at the White House and Treasury Department. 

At 9 a.m. ET, before the US markets open, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and her senior leadership team huddle virtually with the Markets Room and other key Treasury Department aides for a briefing on the state of the financial markets and issues to watch for that day. 

In recent weeks, that daily briefing has heavily focused on reverberations of the debt limit standoff, from updates on auctions of Treasury bills to market reactions and commentary from market analysts and economists.

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McCarthy leaves Capitol without a deal on debt ceiling

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy left the Capitol on Thursday evening with no deal on the debt ceiling, saying there was back and forth with the White House but that hammering out an agreement wasn’t easy.

McCarthy would not get into specifics and left for the day.  

Rep. Patrick McHenry, a GOP negotiator, remains in the speaker’s office with his two children and is not expected to be here much longer, according to an aide. 

With no bill to vote on, House lawmakers are expected to leave for the holiday weekend — though they will be given 24 hours’ notice to return if a deal is reached.

GOP Sen. Tim Scott pushes for work requirements for federal aid programs amid debt ceiling talks

Republican Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina waves to members of the New Hampshire Federation of Republican Women at Saint Anselm College's New Hampshire Institute of Politics in Manchester, New Hampshire, on May 25.

Republican Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina on Thursday advocated for work requirements for federal aid programs as he campaigned in New Hampshire amid ongoing negotiations in Washington over raising the nation’s debt ceiling. 

Scott, who announced his bid for the GOP presidential nomination earlier this week, argued implementing work requirements would reduce government spending and help differentiate “those who cannot do for themselves, as opposed to those who will not do for themselves.” 

Where negotiations stand: House Republicans are using the standoff over the debt ceiling to advocate for a longstanding goal of requiring more low-income Americans to work in order to receive government benefits, including food stamps and Medicaid. 

As part of the negotiations, the White House and House GOP are discussing a deal that would lift the ceiling through 2024 while placing caps on the 12 annual spending bills Congress must pass by the end of the fiscal year, a source told CNN. 

GOP negotiator says work on a deal continues but “there’s no flexibility” on default deadline

Rep. Patrick McHenry speaks to members of the press in a hallway of the U.S. Capitol on May 25, in Washington, DC.

A Republican negotiator said “the work continues” on a debt ceiling deal and that it’s still going to take time to pull it all together.

“I think there’s a sense of understanding from both teams that we have serious issues still to work out and come to terms with and that’s gonna take some time. That’s all there is to it,” Rep. Patrick McHenry said.

But, he also said the people working on the deal recognize that the X-date deadline is not negotiable. That’s the date the US Treasury Department said the country will default, which could be as soon as June 1.

In letter to McCarthy, group of hardline Republicans outline new demands in debt ceiling talks

Rep. Bob Good talks with reporters outside the Capitol during the last votes of the week on Thursday, May 25.

A group of 35 hardline Republicans sent a letter to House Speaker Kevin McCarthy Thursday calling for additional demands in the debt ceiling talks and floating a new strategy.

The latest move is part of a pressure campaign to pull the debt ceiling deal as far right as possible. 

What they are asking for: In the letter, they urged McCarthy to include provisions to beef up border security and block the FBI’s new headquarters — even though it wasn’t in the House-passed GOP debt ceiling bill.

They also called on the speaker to force the Treasury Secretary to “prove” her work when she estimates the default date. 

The group also called to immediately pass a standalone bill to claw back unspent Covid funds and some IRS funding, which they said would help provide immediate cash and push back the X-date in order to buy themselves more time. 

View the full letter here:

US markets close mixed as investors grow increasingly concerned about stalled debt talks

Traders work on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange on May 25, in New York City. 

US stocks were mixed on Thursday as investors were encouraged by stellar quarterly results from AI-backer Nvidia despite an ongoing standoff in debt ceiling negotiations.

Markets were also buoyed by economic news. Gross domestic product — the broadest measure of economic output — grew faster in the first three months of the year than previously estimated, the Commerce Department reported on Thursday.

There is some concern, however, that the economy’s resilience complicates the path forward for the Federal Reserve.

Policymakers have been attempting to slow the economy through rate hikes to fight elevated inflation. The GDP data could mean that more economically painful hikes lie ahead.

Investors are also growing increasingly concerned about stalled debt ceiling negotiations and the lack of progress toward a potential deal.

There are just three trading days left until Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen’s June 1 estimated deadline for the US to raise the debt ceiling or the county risks defaulting.

Treasury yields, aside from the one-month, moved higher across the curve on Thursday, as worries of a default grew.

The Dow closed down 35 points, or 0.1% on Thursday. The S&P 500 was 0.9% higher. The Nasdaq Composite gained 1.7%.

As stocks settle after the trading day, levels might change slightly.

Democrats dig in against work requirements in any debt limit deal

House Democrats left their caucus meeting Thursday afternoon even more entrenched in their opposition to including work requirements in any debt limit deal.

Republicans have been using the debt ceiling standoff to advocate for one of their longstanding goals – requiring more low-income Americans to work in order to receive government benefits, particularly food stamps and Medicaid.

Cleaver said he’s been pleasantly surprised at fellow Democrats’ willingness to dig in and not give Republicans key concessions. He said he’s still hearing lawmakers call for Biden, instead of striking a deal, to invoke the 14th Amendment to avoid a debt crisis — a controversial potential strategy that the Treasury secretary cast doubt on this week.

Rep. Rosa DeLauro, a Democrat from Connecticut and her party’s top member on the House Appropriations Committee, agreed the requirements are a “non-starter.”

Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters from California also pushed back on any consideration of work requirements.

Exploring all avenues: House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries is still pushing for Republicans to support a long-shot discharge petition. The procedural move could force a floor vote on the debt ceiling without the blessing of Republican leadership but requires the support of a majority of House members.

“If we wanted to do something bipartisan, we’ve created a vehicle. Five Republicans can join 213 Democrats to make sure that America pays our bills and we don’t default,” Jeffries said.

CNN’s Tami Luhby contributed to this report.

Debt ceiling negotiators have still not reached a deal. Here’s what you should know

The White House said debt ceiling negotiators had “productive discussions” Thursday, although an agreement has not yet been reached.

Both sides agree that “default is not an option,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said. And President Joe Biden insisted Thursday that “there will be no default.”

But with the House of Representatives expected to recess Thursday ahead of the holiday weekend, negotiators are running out of time before the projected June 1 deadline for what could be the nation’s first-ever default.

Here’s what you should know to get up to speed:

Today’s discussions: GOP negotiator Rep. Patrick McHenry said there are still “fundamental disagreements” that needed to be resolved. Biden said he won’t agree to a debt ceiling deal that will cut spending or impact important programs for middle-class Americans while House Speaker Kevin McCarthy said he would not cut any funding for the Pentagon.

Among the paths forward under discussion, negotiators have considered clawing back some of the $80 billion in funding for new IRS agents that was included in the Inflation Reduction Act, a GOP source confirmed to CNN. 

The two sides also discussed a deal that would lift the debt ceiling through 2024 while placing caps on the 12 annual spending bills that Congress must pass by the end of the year, a source familiar with the negotiations told CNN.

Default implications: The calm in the stock market could quickly go away if the debt ceiling standoff continues much longer, according to one analyst. If Treasury interest rates spike, market mayhem could follow soon after, according to financial services analyst Jaret Seiberg, who said the US would suffer a credit ratings downgrade the day after the X-date, noting that the US Treasury wouldn’t announce any skipped payments until after markets close on the X-date.

Democrat frustrations: Democratic Rep. Jamaal Bowman, a House progressive, pressed Biden to stop negotiating with House Republicans on the debt limit and labeled the GOP “economic terrorists.” He said he was “very concerned” that Biden will give in to Republican demands for spending cuts. Other House Democrats urged Biden to be more vocal in the negotiations during a closed-door caucus meeting, according to multiple sources in the room.

House recess: Speaker McCarthy appears set to send members home after votes on Thursday. Biden is set to travel to the presidential retreat at Camp David and his Wilmington, Delaware, home over the Memorial Day holiday. 

Social security payments could be delayed if nation defaults on its debt

A Social Security card sits alongside checks from the U.S. Treasury on October 14, 2021 in Washington, DC. 

If the US is not able to pay all its bills for the first time ever, senior citizens could be impacted quickly.

Unless President Joe Biden and House Republicans hammer out a deal to address the debt ceiling soon, the Treasury Department may not have enough funds to fully satisfy all of the nation’s obligations as soon as June 1.

The first batch of Social Security payments – roughly $25 billion’s worth – are scheduled to be sent out on June 2. They mainly go to many of the oldest and most vulnerable of the roughly 66 million retirees, disabled workers and others in the entitlement program — those who started receiving their checks before May 1997.

Payments to more recent enrollees are set to go out on June 14, June 21 and June 28, depending on the day of the month one was born. The amounts are also about $25 billion each week.

But if the debt ceiling impasse is not resolved, those benefits could be delayed, along with paychecks to federal workers and the military, payments to Medicare providers, and federal grants to states and municipalities for Medicaid, highways, education and more.

Many senior citizens are already growing worried, especially in the past week or so as the deadline grows closer, advocates say.

Almost two-thirds of beneficiaries rely on Social Security for half of their income, and for 40% of recipients, the payments constitute at least 90% of their income, according to the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare. The average benefit for retired workers is $1,827 a month in 2023.

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House Democrats voice frustration over debt ceiling negotiations in closed-door meeting

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, joined by fellow Democrats, speaks with reporters about the debt ceiling, at the Capitol in Washington, Thursday, May 25.

House Democrats voiced frustrations that President Joe Biden has not been more vocal in debt ceiling negotiations in a closed-door caucus meeting, according to multiple sources in the room. 

A common question asked during the meeting was: Where is Biden? 

Separately, House Democrats raised concerns that Biden could be alienating them in the kind of deal he cuts with Republicans. 

A source in the room said there is just a lot of “pushback about having to vote for a bad deal — people really unhappy with potential for work requirements in the deal.”

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries made no promises in the meeting but made clear the White House understands the concerns and is fighting hard in the negotiations, the sources added. 

Earlier Thursday, Biden addressed debt ceiling negotiations in unrelated remarks from the White House and said negotiators are “making progress.” He also said that he will not agree to a debt ceiling deal that will cut spending or impact important programs for middle-class Americans.

Debt ceiling negotiators are discussing clawing back funding for IRS agents, GOP source confirms

Debt ceiling negotiators are discussing clawing back some of the $80 billion in funding for new IRS agents that was included in the Inflation Reduction Act, a GOP source confirms to CNN. The talks could be used as a sweetener for Republicans as the two sides try to find an agreement on top line spending numbers. 

Republicans included a claw back of IRS funding in their House passed GOP debt ceiling bill, and a group of hardline Republicans renewed their calls for such a provision in a letter on Thursday.

The White House said earlier on in the negotiations that rolling back the IRA was off table.

CNN has reached out to the White House for comment. 

The Associated Press was the first to report that IRS funding is something being discussed in the talks.

Biden says he will not agree to spending cuts on programs helping middle-class Americans

President Joe Biden announces his nomination of Air Force General Charles Brown, Jr., to serve as the next Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington, DC, May 25. 

President Joe Biden said that he will not agree to a debt ceiling deal that will cut spending or impact important programs for middle-class Americans.

In remarks from the White House, the president criticized the bill Republicans passed last month.

The president then went on to push for his debt ceiling deal proposal.

“I put forward a proposal that will cut spending by more than $1 trillion, that freezes spending for the next two years. That’s on top of the nearly $3 trillion in deficit reduction  I previously proposed — through a combination of spending cuts and new revenue raises.” Biden said.

He added, that he’d like the wealthy to begin “pay their fair share,” which will help reduce the deficit.

Biden says Congressional leaders agree that "there will be no default"

President Joe Biden said that talks continue on a debt ceiling deal, with negotiators “making progress.”

“Speaker (Kevin) McCarthy and I have had several productive conversations and our staffs continue to meet as we speak, as a matter of fact, and they’re making progress. I’ve made it clear time and again defaulting on our national debt is not an option,” he said ahead of remarks in the Rose Garden to nominate Gen. Charles Brown as Joint Chiefs chairman.

“It is time for Congress to act now. I want to be clear, the negotiations we’re having with Speaker McCarthy is about the outlines of what the budget will look like, not about default. It’s about competing visions for America,” he said.

White House says debt limit talks have been productive and both sides agree "default is not an option" 

Negotiators for the White House have had “productive discussions” with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s team and both sides agree that “default is not an option,” the White House said.

Issues persist: Still, Jean-Pierre acknowledged, differences remain over the two parties’ conflicting view of the budget priorities, with Republicans demanding spending cuts in exchange for raising the debt limit ahead of the projected June 1 deadline for default.

The White House declined to specify whether Biden has spoken with McCarthy since the two met in person on Tuesday, but Jean-Pierre suggested that Biden is giving debt ceiling negotiators “space” to continue negotiations without interfering. 

She said the president and his negotiating team “are going to continue to fight for the President’s vision and for his priorities, and they’re going to do that in good faith,” adding that both sides understand there needs to be a bipartisan agreement to move forward, one that can win support from Democrats and Republicans in both chambers on Congress.

“There’s no alternative to this, this is the path that we need to take. And that’s what we’re focused on to make sure that we’re getting things done for the American people,” Jean-Pierre said.

She defended Biden’s decision to travel to the presidential retreat at Camp David and his Wilmington, Delaware, home over the Memorial Day holiday. The House is also expected to recess Thursday for the holiday.

Top US general warns default would have "very significant negative impact" on national security

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Mark Milley testifies before the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense May 11, in Washington, DC.

A default on the national debt would take a significant toll on the US military and morale among its troops, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley said Thursday.

“Paying troops, the morale of troops, weapons systems, contracts — all of that would be impacted,” Milley said at a news conference. “Readiness clearly would be impacted. So, our large-scale exercises that we do at various training centers would probably either slow down or come to a halt in many, many cases.”

“I think it’d be very, very significant, without a doubt, and it would have absolutely clear, unambiguous implications on national security,” he added.

Markets have remained relatively calm, but could grow more volatile as default deadline nears, analyst warns

A trader works the floor of the New York Stock Exchange at the opening bell, on May 25, in New York City.

Wall Street has mostly shrugged off the debt ceiling drama in Washington, as investors bet a compromise will eventually emerge. Yet the calm in the stock market could quickly go away if the standoff continues much longer.

“We believe the market’s TARP-like moment is likely to occur on June 2,” Jaret Seiberg, financial services analyst at TD Cowen Washington Research Group, wrote in a note to clients Thursday.

June 2 is the day after the United States could cross the “X-date,” the deadline where the government would potentially run out of cash if Congress fails to address the debt ceiling.

“TARP-like moment” is a reference to September 29, 2008 – the day the Dow plunged 778 points, or nearly 7%, after the House of Representatives initially voted down the Wall Street bailout known as the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP.

The selloff was so massive that lawmakers returned just days later to approve TARP. 

Although US stocks have started to buckle in recent days as Washington struggles to reach a debt ceiling deal, the losses have been minimal.

Seiberg warns there could be market turbulence prior to the June 1 deadline.

It would become difficult to price debt because US Treasuries are a cornerstone of modern finance, serving as a key benchmark by which all other forms of credit are priced. If Treasury interest rates spike, market mayhem could follow soon after.

Seiberg expects the United States would suffer a credit ratings downgrade the day after the X-date, noting that the US Treasury wouldn’t announce any skipped payments until after markets close on the X-date.

Americans should be worried that debt ceiling has not yet been raised, deputy treasury secretary says

Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo speaks at a news conference on recent enforcement actions against cryptocurrency at the U.S. Justice Department Building on January 18, in Washington, DC.

Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo told CNN Thursday in an exclusive interview that Americans “should all be worried” that Congress has yet to raise the debt ceiling and warned of an economic “catastrophe.”

Asked how worried Americans should be about the economy today, Adeyemo responded, “I think we should all be worried the Congress has not taken the action they need to do which is raising the debt limit. Not doing so would be a catastrophe for the economy that would have an impact across not only the United States but across the global economy.”

Adeyemo also addressed the Treasury Department “Markets Room,” where officials are closely monitoring for additional warning signs for the US economy. 

He also spoke about the reverberations the financial markets are already feeling because of the debt ceiling crisis and said that the cost of borrowing has already gotten more expensive. 

“So, as the debt limit manufactured crisis goes on, and costs go up for the government, it also means that costs will go up for the American people as well,” he warned. 

Adeyemo declined to outline what contingency plans the Treasury Department has in store should the US hit the debt ceiling or whether Treasury would prioritize certain payments over others.  

“There is no plan that would work to preserve the United States’ credibility if we default on our debt,” Adeyemo said. “What I can tell you is that there’s no plan that would allow us to meet all of our commitments other than Congress, raising the debt limit.”

Source: White House and GOP are discussing raising debt ceiling through 2024 in exchange for spending caps

The White House and House Republicans are discussing a deal that would lift the debt ceiling through 2024 while placing caps on the 12 annual spending bills that Congress must pass by the end of the year, a source familiar with the negotiations tells CNN.

Such a mechanism would allow Congress to pass 12 appropriations bills at agreed upon spending levels, and if they don’t, establish a short-term bill to automatically pare back spending to those levels.

The exact spending levels are still being determined, the source added.  

This agreement would create a process around spending cuts and give Congress the room to figure out how specifically to meet those cuts.

Remember: Each chamber of the US Congress has 12 appropriations subcommittees that produce one bill each year to determine government spending on their area of oversight.

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‘It’s going to be catastrophic:’ The debt ceiling standoff is worrying for some Americans
Social Security payments could be delayed due to debt ceiling impasse
Don’t expect markets to rejoice if a deal is reached on the debt ceiling