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CNN’s climate crisis town hall

Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren participates in CNN's climate crisis town hall in New York on September 4, 2019.
See how candidates stood out in 7 hours of climate talk
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  • 10 candidates, one night: CNN hosted a Democratic presidential town hall in New York City focused on the climate crisis.
  • Why this matters: Many candidates have unveiled policy proposals to address the threat posed by a warming planet. President Trump has said he does not believe government reports that cast grave warnings about the effects of climate change.
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10 key lines from CNN's climate crisis town hall

CNN tonight hosted 10 back-to-back town halls with 2020 Democratic candidates.

The candidates took questions directly from a live studio audience — composed of Democratic voters interested in the issue — in New York as well as CNN moderators.

Here’s the key takeaway from each candidate’s town hall:

  • Julián Castro said that “new civil rights legislation” to address environmental racism — minority communities facing the brunt of the climate crisis — is part of his plan to combat global warming. “I know that too often times it’s people that are poor, communities of color, who take the brunt of storms that are getting more frequent and more powerful,” he said.
  • Andrew Yang said that if he’s elected president, he’ll eliminate gross domestic product as a measure of national success and replace it with a system that includes environmental factors. “Let’s upgrade it with a new score card that includes our environmental sustainability and our goals,” he said.
  • Kamala Harris said that, as president, she would direct the Department of Justice to go after oil and gas companies who have directly impacted global warming. “They are causing harm and death in communities. And there has been no accountability,” she said.
  • Amy Klobuchar called for a reversal to the Trump administration’s move to rollback regulations on methane emissions. “That is very dangerous,” she said of the administration’s move.
  • Joe Biden was asked by a 19-year-old activist how young voters can trust him to prioritize their futures over big business. “I’ve never made that choice. My whole career,” he said.
  • Bernie Sanders was asked whether he would roll back Trump administration plans to overturn requirements on energy saving lightbulbs. He delivered an emphatic answer: “Duh!”
  • Elizabeth Warren said that conversations around regulating light bulbs, banning plastic straws and cutting down on red meat are exactly what the fossil fuel industry wants people focused on as a way to distract from their impact on climate change.
  • Pete Buttigieg said that successfully combating climate change might be “more challenging than” winning World War II. “This is the hardest thing we will have done in my lifetime as a country,” he said.
  • Beto O’Rourke said that, should he be elected president, his administration would spend federal dollars to help people in flood-prone areas move to higher ground. “People would move out of those neighborhoods if they could,” he said.
  • Cory Booker is a vegan — but he says he won’t try to get other Americans to stop eating hamburgers. “Freedom is one of the most sacred values — whatever you want to eat, go ahead and eat it,” he said.

Booker: People against nuclear power to fight climate change "just aren’t looking at the facts"

New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker said that people who don’t think nuclear power needs to be part of the fight against climate change – a group that includes many of his presidential opponents – “aren’t looking at the facts.”

Booker said that he warmed to nuclear power after reading studies about it and talking to nuclear scientists about technological advancements “that make nuclear safer.”

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren are both opposed – in different ways – to nuclear power.

Warren said Wednesday that she would oppose nuclear energy as a way to combat climate change should she be elected president in 2020.

“We’re not going to build any nuclear power plants and we’re going to start weaning ourselves off nuclear energy and replacing it with renewable fuels,” Warren said, adding that she hopes to phase out nuclear power by 2035.

Booker: "Whatever you want to eat, go ahead and eat it"

New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker is a vegan – but he says he won’t try to get other Americans to stop eating hamburgers.

Still, Booker said at CNN’s climate town hall Wednesday night that he would stop subsidies for corporate farming practices that contribute to pollution and global warming.

But, he said, he sees health care as extending beyond doctors and nurses to include healthy food systems.

“We are going to have to make sure our government is not subsidizing the things that make us sick and unhealthy and hurt our environment,” he said.

Booker, who said he became a vegetarian while playing college football at Stanford, said he visited a community in North Carolina where “the farming practices are becoming so perverse” that people there can’t open their windows, are seeing their creeks polluted and are suffering respiratory illnesses.

“There’s not a person in our country, seeing that misery, that wants to take a part in that,” he said.

Cory Booker is the 10th — and last — candidiate to take the stage

New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker is the last 2020 candidiate to take the stage at CNN’s climate crisis town hall.

He’s taking voters’ questions now.

Earlier tonight, these 2020 candidates participated in the event:

  • Former Vice President Joe Biden
  • South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg
  • Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar
  • Former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke
  • Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders
  • Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren
  • Businessman Andrew Yang
  • California Sen. Kamala Harris
  • Former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro

O'Rourke would spend federal dollars to help people move out of flood-prone areas

Former Rep. Beto O’Rourke said that, should he be elected president, his administration would spend federal dollars to help people in flood-prone areas move to higher ground.

Central to O’Rourke’s answer was Houston, Texas, where a series of floods have affected parts of the sprawling city, raising questions about whether people should rebuild in the same places that have already flooded multiple times.

He added: “That’s why under my administration we’re going to invest the resources that will allow people to move to safer ground, rebuild their homes, their businesses and their lives.”

O’Rourke made clear that this would be for people whose homes have “repeatedly flooded.”

“We should help people move when they need to move,” he said.

Americans don't have to "radically or fundamentally change" how they eat, O'Rourke says

CNN’s Chief Climate Correspondent Bill Weir asked Beto O’Rourke if the American diet has to change in order to combat the climate crisis.

“To grow one pound of beef, it takes 20 times the land and 20 times the carbon pollution as one pound of plant protein. So as president, how do you think the American diet should change?” Weir asked

O’Rourke said he rejects “any notion that we have to radically or fundamentally change how we eat or what we eat.”

He continued: “I just think we have to be more responsible in the way that we do it, and the best way to do that is to allow the market to respond by setting a price on carbon in every single part of our economy, every facet of American life.”

What’s the impact of meat production, anyway?

There’s a lot for environmentalists to hate about beef. It’s cattle ranchers, encouraged by Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, setting fires in the Amazon to destroy rain forest in order to make room for more meat production.

But there is also the matter of methane produced by cows. Livestock is responsible for more than 14% of greenhouse gas emissions — and beef in particular is responsible for 41% those. 

Democrats are proposing a shift to “sustainable” agricultural practices, but Republicans have mocked a line cut from a Democratic summary of the Green New Deal that mentioned “cow farts” and allege that Democrats want to take away Americans steaks and hamburgers.

O'Rourke brings up statehood for Puerto Rico

Beto O’Rourke raised the prospect of Puerto Rican statehood at CNN’s climate town hall Wednesday. The former Texas congressman said the island should have the option of “two U.S. senators who can go to town for them” to fight for disaster-related funding.

Beto O'Rourke opposes carbon tax, backs cap-and-trade

Beto O’Rourke said he opposes a carbon tax and instead backs a carbon cap-and-trade program in which a shrinking number of “allowances” would be sold to polluters each year.

“It’s the best way to send the pricing signal to ensure that there is a legally enforceable limit,” the former Texas congressman said at CNN’s climate town hall Wednesday.

“We should certainly price carbon. I think the best possible path to do that is through a cap and trade system. There would be allowances granted or sold to polluters,” he said, adding that “there would be a set number of allowances that would decrease every single year.”

Democrats in the House of Representatives passed a cap-and-trade bill in 2010 that would have capped carbon emissions for businesses and forced emitters to buy credits for emissions from other businesses – that’s the trade part – but it never went anywhere in the Senate.

Many people think the most effective way to drastically cut carbon emissions would be to set a price on them – essentially, to tax them, which O’Rourke said he opposes.

The International Monetary Fund recently suggested fossil fuel producers were getting more than $600 billion per year in subsides from the US government because they are not paying for the carbon they emit into the air. That’s part of a larger $5.2 trillion that the IMF paper suggested oil and gas companies were getting from governments worldwide.

Beto O'Rourke is up next

Beto O’Rourke’s climate crisis town hall just started, and he’s taking questions from voters.

He’s the ninth Democratic candidiate to take the stage in New York City tonight.

Buttigieg defends use of private planes for campaigning

Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg defended his decision to fly on private planes during his 2020 campaign despite the increased impact private air travel has on the environment

Buttigieg and his traveling aides regularly fly private, and the South Bend, Indiana, mayor spent more money on private air travel than any other candidate in the second quarter of 2019.

Asked on Wednesday about that travel, Buttigieg said he is “interested in de-carbonizing the fuel that goes into air travel” but that he flies private because “this is a very big country and I’m running to be president of the whole country.”

Buttigieg also slammed the fact that United State has an “inferior train system.”

“Think what it would mean for areas like the industrial Midwest if places from Indianapolis to Chicago to South Bend and Detroit and so on were just a few hours away from each other by train,” He said. “I’m not even asking for Japanese level trains. Just give me like Italian level trains.”

Buttigieg: Let’s talk about climate as a "faith" issue

Pete Buttigieg is the mayor of a liberal city in the middle of a conservative state. On Wednesday, he said that to connect with Republicans in places like Indiana on climate issues, Democrats would be wise to use the frame of faith.

“Let’s talk in language that is understood across the heartland, about faith,” the South Bend, Indiana, mayor said. “You know, if you believe that God is watching as poison is being belched into the air of creation, and people are being harmed by it, countries are at risk in low lying areas. What do you suppose God thinks of that?

Buttigieg’s guess: That “it’s messed up.”

“You don’t have to be religious to see the moral dimensions of this because, frankly, every religious and nonreligious moral tradition tells us that we have some responsibility to stewardship, some responsibility for taking care of what’s around us not to mention taking care of our neighbor,” he said.

By taking that route, Buttigieg argued, the stakes both become more clear and increasingly real – to everyone.

“Eventually, it gets to the point where this is less and less about the planet as an abstract thing,” he said, “and more and more about specific people suffering specific harm because of what we’re doing right now.”

Buttigieg says Trump may be most remembered for "failure to act on climate"

Pete Buttigieg said the most-remembered element of Donald Trump’s presidency could be his failure to address the climate crisis.

“You could argue of all the horrible things this president has done, the one that will most be remembered 50 or 100 years from now will have to do with the failure to act on climate. At least, that’s what it will be like if this goes down in history as the time we failed to get something done,” the South Bend, Indiana, mayor said at CNN’s climate town hall.

“I mean, Congress is like a room full of doctors arguing about what to do over a cancer patient,” he said. “And half of them are arguing over whether medication or surgery is the best approach, and the other half is saying cancer doesn’t exist. Think of what a disservice – this a life or death issue. The president is busy drawing with a Sharpie on a hurricane map. He’s in a different reality than the rest of us. The problem is we don’t have the luxury of debating whether this is an issue.”

Buttigieg was asked what question he would ask Trump in a debate about climate change, but said he doesn’t believe Trump can be reached on the issue.

“By asking him a question. I don’t think you can’t get to him at all,” he said. “And it’s not just him. It’s all of the enablers in the congressional GOP.”

Buttigieg: Combatting climate could be "more challenging than" winning World War II

Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg said Wednesday that successfully combating climate change might be “more challenging than” winning World War II.

The comment came early in Buttigieg’s town hall, when the South Bend, Indiana, mayor was seeking to explain how the country needed to be unified around the climate crisis in order to successfully combat it.

Buttigieg then paused, and said, “Maybe more challenging than that.”

He added: “Does anybody really think we’re going to meet that goal if between now and 2050, we are still at each other’s throats? It won’t happen.”

Buttigieg, who often talks about the need to unite around difficult issues, said part of this unification may mean “bringing people to the table who haven’t felt they have been part of the process.”

Pete Buttigieg just took the stage at the climate crisis town hall

South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg is next up at CNN’s climate crisis town hall.

He’s one of 10 Democratic candidates to take voter’s questions tonight.

Warren: Sanders’ spending doesn’t mean he is more dedicated to climate fight

Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren rejected the idea that Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, her fellow 2020 contender, was more committed to the climate change fight because he is willing to spend trillions more on the issue.

“No,” Warren said bluntly.

Warren and Sanders are the two top progressives in the race and, while they are close friends, it is expected that they will have to clash at some point in the coming months.

Warren admitted that combatting climate change “takes money,” but she added that it also takes more than that.

“We need to be willing to use regulatory tools. That’s important,” she said. “We have to use our position internationally.”

Warren said, for that reason, her trade and foreign policy includes climate elements.

Here's what Warren would say to refinery workers who are worried about their jobs

CNN’s Chief Climate Correspondent Bill Weir asked Sen. Elizabeth Warren about what she would say to oil refinery workers, like the ones in Port Arthur, Texas, whose jobs depend on the oil industry.

“Even though they understand the problems, they would tell you, ‘Please don’t shut them down, because I will die of starvation before I die of pollution.’ They’re worried about jobs. What do you tell the pipe fitters and cafeteria workers in Port Arthur what will happen to them if these places go dark?” Weir asked.

Warren said she had two things she’d like to tell those workers.

“The first one is, that’s not the only job in Port Arthur over the next 20 years,” she said, adding that there will be union infrastructure in the city, which was hard hit by Hurricane Harvey in 2017.

Then she continued with her second point:

Warren wants "tough rules," not public ownership of utilities

Sen. Elizabeth Warren on Wednesday rejected Sen. Bernie Sanders’ plan to move energy utilities toward public ownership.

Asked if she would back that piece of the Vermont senator’s climate plan, Warren questioned whether it would have the desired effect.

Warren sought to redefine the problem, saying that she was open to enterprising private companies making money off innovative new technologies – but not in a way that endangers public safety.

“If somebody wants wants to make a profit from building better solar panels and generating better battery storage, I’m not opposed to that,” Warren said. “What I’m opposed to, is when they do it in a way that hurts everybody else. You shouldn’t be able to externalize these costs. That’s the problem with fossil fuels, right.”

But Warren also issued a warning to current energy producers and any other competitors with plans to enter the sector.

“We got to have tough rules,” she said. “And that means we have got to be willing to fight back against these giant industries. And that’s where the whole thing starts for me, we put them on their back foot. Then we have a real chance to make the changes we need to make.”

Warren: Fossil fuel companies want people focused on light bulbs, straws and cheeseburgers

Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren said Wednesday that conversations around regulating light bulbs, banning plastic straws and cutting down on red meat are exactly what the fossil fuel industry wants people focused on as a way to distract from their impact on climate change.

“This is exactly what the fossil fuel industry hopes we’re all talking about,” Warren said. “That’s what they want us to talk about.”

Warren said that fossil fuels want people to think “this is your problem” and to “stir up a lot of controversy around your lightbulbs, around your straws and around your cheeseburgers.”

The reality, Warren argues, is that “70% of the pollution of the carbon that we’re throwing into the air comes from three industries and we can set our targets and say by 2028, 2030, and 2035, no more.”

Warren has advocated, by 2028, mandating carbon free building; by 2030, mandating carbon free cars and light-duty truck production; and, by 2035, mandating carbon free electricity generation.

Warren on Trump: "Where he is right now is a nightmare"

Sen. Elizabeth Warren — asked about if the reality of the Green New Deal — said Trump’s climate plans are a “nightmare.”

CNN’s Chris Cuomo asked Warren to envision a possible 2020 debate with her up against President Trump.

“You’re on the debate stage. You’re across from the President, and he says the Green New Deal is a dream because we’re 60% right now on fossil fuels,” Cuomo said.

Warren quipped: “I’m just saying, where he is right now is a nightmare.”

Warren went on to say that we need to “dream big” now, since the US only accounts for about 20% of the climate crisis.

Warren: "We're not going to build any nuclear power plants"

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren said Wednesday that she would oppose nuclear energy as a way to combat climate change should she be elected president in 2020.

“We’re not going to build any nuclear power plants and we’re going to start weaning ourselves off nuclear energy and replacing it with renewable fuels,” Warren said, adding that she hopes to phase out nuclear power by 2035.

Warren said that while nuclear energy is not carbon-based – and therefore cleaner than some energy sources – there is a clear danger with storage.

“It has a lot of risks associated with it,” Warren said.

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